2. On the Continued Existence of Israel
Bird’s Eye: Two Israelis of note worry about whether Israel can continue to exist as a Jewish democratic country, while BDS supporter Norman Finklestein (who’s he?) launches a blistering attack on the BDS movement.
* The Suicide State Uri Avnery Counterpunch
After 1967, another much less funny joke took its place.
It goes like this: many Israelis ask God for their state to be Jewish and democratic, and that it will include the entire country between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. That is too much even for the Almighty. So he asks them to choose between a state that is Jewish and democratic but only in part of the country, or a state in all the country that is Jewish but not democratic, or a state in the entire country that is democratic but not Jewish…..This is the choice facing us today as it did almost 45 years ago. It has only become more sharply defined.
…The current government is determined to prevent any peace that would compel it to give up any part of the occupied territories (22% of pre-1948 Palestine). There is no one around who would compel them to do so.
What remains? A state that is either non-democratic or non-Jewish.
* Come Visit Israel While You Can Bradley Burston Haaretz
I have a nephew who’s never seen Israel. I have young cousins, and friends and children of friends, who have never been here, but who have long wanted to come visit.
I want them to come soon. Before it’s all gone.
The Israel I want them to see is dying by the day.
It’s the Israel I saw when I myself once came to visit. A place which had a calm but breathtaking belief in a better future. A place that still had a shot at just that. It was this Israel that convinced me to stay.
This is this Israel that this government, and this parliament, has decided, once and for all, to finish off, precept by democratic precept. As they see it, the sooner, the quieter, and the more permanently, the better.
My nephew is going to have to hurry.
I want him to see what’s left of a place of quietly extraordinary people who dreamed of decency and peace, who envisioned making a place in the world where both we and our immediate neighbors could live together: no longer hated, no longer hating.
It was a place where there was an overriding belief that democracy was sacred, that minority rights should be respected more and more, rather than less and ultimately not at all.
* Norman Finklestein on BDS Youtube 5 min Transcript below film
I’ve earned my right to speak my mind, and I’m not going to tolerate what I think is silliness, childishness, and a lot of leftist posturing.
…I support the BDS. But I said it will never reach a broad public until and unless they’re explicit in their goal. And their goal has to include the recognition of Israel or it’s a nonstarter. It won’t reach the public because the moment you go out there Israel will start to say “What about us?”, and “They won’t recognize our right” and in fact that’s correct. You can’t answer the Israelis on that because they’re making a statement that’s factually correct.
There’s no Israel. That’s what it’s really about. And you think you’re fooling anybody. You think you’re so clever that people can’t figure that out for themselves? No they understand the arithmetic perfectly well. Are you going to reach a broad public which is going to hear the Israeli side ‘they want to destroy us?’ No you’re not. And frankly you know what? You shouldn’t. You shouldn’t read a broad public because you’re dishonest. And I wouldn’t trust those people if I had to live in this state. I wouldn’t. It’s dishonesty. (good response to NF here)


